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Hi
Many pianolas (self playing pianos) and some modern concert grands have both types of 'soft' pedal, ie a half-blow (where the hammers are brought nearer the strings) and an una corda pedal (where the whole keyboard is moved to the right so that fewer strings are struck by the hammer). How can these two types of pedal be MIDI coded? I can see only control number 67 (soft pedal) that seems to fit the bill but I have potentially two signals. Has anybody any ideas about this?
Many thanks

Nigel
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MIDI 1.0 does not differentiate between the different types of soft pedal.

If you are designing a product, you could assign the one that is most important for your product to the Soft Pedal Control Change message (CC#67) then use one of the undefined controllers as another pedal (I might consider CC#14 or CC#80). Or use one control change to change between 2 types, then use CC#67 to control the pedal regardless of which type which has been selected.

The MIDI Association working on a MIDI-CI Piano Profile specification in which I think we will address these differences. That specification will probably be published in early 2022. But it will be longer before a number of digital piano models implement the new messages in the Profile specification.
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Hello,

The existing controller (Soft Pedel) makes an adjustment to the existing sound, but this may not be enough of a difference to fully recreate the sound you're looking for. You may need to create a new 'patch'? There may be sound banks, maybe some of the more specialised piano sound banks, that have already implemented this.

Might involve a lot of experimentation to get exactly the sort of sound/effect you're looking for.

Maybe try some detailed searching on the web to see what already exists.

Geoff
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MIDI 1.0 does not differentiate between the different types of soft pedal.

If you are designing a product, you could assign the one that is most important for your product to the Soft Pedal Control Change message (CC#67) then use one of the undefined controllers as another pedal (I might consider CC#14 or CC#80). Or use one control change to change between 2 types, then use CC#67 to control the pedal regardless of which type which has been selected.

The MIDI Association working on a MIDI-CI Piano Profile specification in which I think we will address these differences. That specification will probably be published in early 2022. But it will be longer before a number of digital piano models implement the new messages in the Profile specification.
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Thanks Geoff, thanks Mike for your rapid replies. looks like I'll have to go with your suggestion Mike. I look forward to seeing the new MIDI-CI Piano Profile specs when they come out.
Nigel
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