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  Tuesday, 21 September 2021
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Hi all, there seems to be a big increase in the amount of SPAM posters managing to sign up and post recently.

Please check the user account if you do not recognize the user name before replying. Most SPAM posters are signing up, immediately posting a single post, and then "disappearing". A few have posted multiple SPAM posts, all pretty much at the same time, with either very vague or basic questions about posts that the answers have already been given.

Many of these new posts are using a sophisticated bot of some sort which seems to be attempting to learn what types of replies will get a response. I've noticed lately most will have a (presumably malicious) link in a pile of nonsense in the "About" section of their profile. They will tend to make a post as a reply to an old/very old thread that often copies and rewords the contents of one of the previous replies to that post to make it seem like a new question.

Please keep an eye out, and do not reply to a message if it appears suspicious.

:)
2 months ago
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#11834
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Would appreciate that...
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Apparently, the ability to delete the first post (i.e., the entire thread) is a separate right that somebody forgot to give to you.
2 months ago
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#11787
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It does not appear on the first message of a thread.
It only appears on the replies.
2 months ago
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#11716
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"Delete" only works on the replies. If the spammer started a new topic, "Delete" does not show up.
2 months ago
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Interesting point.

If I remember, the 'ban' option is not really a 'ban' as it's for a period only, which is not a lot of point. From the point of view of malicious spam (and really, most of the spam we get here is malicious, as the material is irrelevant, and it's cluttering up the system and making things more difficult for legitimate users, and it's uselessly bumping old items to the top of the list, etc). Such items should justify total deletion of the account - BUT - there would be a problem if the same user already had legitimate topics posted, then they should not be removed?

Geoff
2 months ago
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There usually is a "Delete" menu item just below the "Ban post owner" menu item.
Which thread did it not appear on?
2 months ago
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#11711
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Why is there an option to "ban the user" but no option to "delete the topic"?
2 months ago
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Clemens is quite right.
If you watch as closely as I do you'll see that the vast majority of the spam occurs Monday to Friday.

Just where it's directed varies over time.
Some while back (months(?) a year(?)) I logged in one morning to find three to four PAGES of new spam messages!
It took me a good half hour, or so, to clear it all up.
I wouldn't be surprised though if I missed a few.

JohnG.
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The current CAPTCHA is obviously not really helping


The CAPTCHA protects against bots. For all of the spam we're seeing, somebody is being paid to click through the CAPTCHA.
2 months ago
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Two comments:
- The current CAPTCHA is obviously not really helping, or is just being brute-forced to bypass
- They tend to post on "0" replied posts, which is digging up some interesting things I may have missed either from the abundance of SPAM at the time, or from before I joined. :p
2 months ago
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In the many, many years that I've been a moderator or administrator of several fora, I've never managed to discourage spammers.
You see you're trying to get through to people who are generally as thick as a brick.

All one can do, I've learned, is to be patient and just keep banning them and eliminating the spam.
I do it here and in one or two other places every day sometimes two or three times a day.
Above all I try not to let them wind me up. After all that's handing them the victory isn't it?

KEEP CALM AND CARRY ON. ;-)

JohnG.
3 months ago
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I wonder if there's some setting or plug-in that could make any links in posts have a "nofollow" attribute. That might make posting links here unattractive to spammers.
3 months ago
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Hm, yes - but how many people are actually LOOKING for spam.

Our initial aim is to try to protect real users of the forum from this sort of thing.

Geoff
3 months ago
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useless for the spammer

Every page is useful for the spammer as long as Google can access it.
3 months ago
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Yes, that's a good point.

But a number of forums that I've used DO operate that way. Or there's a variation. They CAN post a message/question, but it does not SHOW on the forum until it's been moderated, whereupon it does show. Yes, then someone needs to clear it. BUT, in effect, that is happening now, except the spammer wins as the spam shows in the meantime.

Maybe this last could be 'cheated'? So could be implemented easily? A message posted by a new member could be assigned a date - say - 1 year ago. So it IS there, but pages down the list, so not 'visible', and useless for the spammer. Then, if the message is OK, the date can be changed, so it goes to the top of the list. If not, then it gets transferred to the BBS in the sky.

Geoff
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make delay of x days between registering and allowing first post


Most new users just want to ask a question, not commit to a long relationship. Telling them that they will not get an answer for x days will scare them away.
3 months ago
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Need to tag items like these from Vietnam, and then delete all tagged. Major hassle doing these one-by-one.

Better option to make delay of x days between registering and allowing first post. Easier to implement. When make post, system checks how long ago you registered, and if less than x days post is rejected. Warning at start?

Geoff
3 months ago
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Dear admins,
Spammers are plaguing this forum.
Please give me the right to delete topics and user accounts.
I promise not to abuse it!
Thank you!
3 months ago
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We now have about 42,000 registered members and get over 50,000 unique visitors every month.


How many of those are real? And there is a lot of spam in the profiles!

We must delete these users profiles, not just their posts.
Hi,

We are looking into ways to improve the spam protection while also allowing good interaction between people who are really interested in MIDI.

We changed a few settings this morning that should help.

We now have about 42,000 registered members and get over 50,000 unique visitors every month.

That is great, but it also means we are now big enough to be targets for malicious people.

Most of all we are posting now to thank the people who are voluntarily moderating the forum and also answer many questions.

It's these community leaders who should really be appreciated by everyone on the site. There is so much going on with new MIDI 2.0 technology that the MIDI Association Technical Standards Board and Executive Board (who are all volunteers themselves) are pretty busy moving MIDI 2.0 forward.

Again, we can't fully express how grateful we are to Eddie, JohnG, Geoff, Clemens, Sema, Jason and all the other people who help out.

We are looking at ways to improve our systems and welcome any suggestions.

In October, we'd like to to get the volunteer forum moderators together to discuss some possible options.

THE MIDI ASSOCIATION (TMA)
The community of people who work, play and create with MIDI

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